Bullet Points – August 19
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You would always find shooters that are simply not ready to accept the utility of a rifle scope for the type of hunting they specialize in. But this sort of blinkered notion only exposes their lack of knowledge of advances made by cutting edge optics and the enormous help they provide to hunters in ensuring a correct hit.

However, this does not mean that conventional iron sights or peep sights have become completely useless; rather, they are very useful in certain specific situations and no shooter worth their salt would ever deny this. But such an aversion to optics might arise from using either low quality lenses or improperly mounted rifle scopes sometime in the past and does not actually gel with the practical benefit of using a scope. If a shooter uses a rifle scope that has adequate magnification and is properly mounted and zeroed and suits their requirement in the type of hunting they specialize in, there should not be any reason for this allergy towards riflescopes.

Now let us shift from generalizations to the very specific topic of hunting wild boars. Generally wild boar hunting is done at ranges that vary between 100-150 yards and might be termed as short to medium. This is so because wild boars are generally found in terrains that have thick cover of undergrowth and bushes and a shot can rarely be aimed at a distance of more than 100 yards. This gives an additional benefit to the hunter. They can use the same rifle and the same hunting scope for shooting deer too.

The most common error in choosing a hunting scope for shooting wild boar is to pick up a rifle scope that has more magnification than required. Shooters usually make the common mistake of assuming that the larger the magnification the better would be the aim, but this is not always the case. Rather, a magnification of higher level ends up in only making the hunter poorer by a few dollars instead of adding any real value to the accuracy of the shot. A hunting scope with smaller magnification would also be lighter and easier to manipulate and handle than a bulkier one. So, it would be sound decision to first decide the degree of magnification actually required in short to medium range hunting and choose a hunting scope that has just adequate magnification. There is one other practical reason for choosing a hunting scope with just adequate magnification and that is a wild boar at 100-150 yards range is a sufficiently large target if viewed through a 4X hunting scope, any larger magnification may actually lead to a miss as the target would become so intricately magnified that the hunter may lose notion of the perspective and end up hitting at a wrong place on the target.

So, a hunter should choose a hunting scope that suits their style of hunting best instead of getting carried away by fancy magnifications and outlandish gadgetry.

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That’s the biggest reason I got rid of my Mesa Tactical shell holder. If I can’t leave it loaded, I have NO use for it. Was a nice piece but I’ll be trying a Tacstar or Wilson if I go back to a shell holder.
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3/8/2008 4:11:01 PM
This was from last month about the Tacstar vs Mesa Tactical holders:

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=1&t=236211
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3/8/2008 4:21:07 PM

Originally Posted By 220ST:
This was from last month about the Tacstar vs Mesa Tactical holders:

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=1&t=236211

Well , ok — I’ll take Mesa Tactical‘s observation and try leaving the shells in there for a few months at a clip. “Brass up” actually, to hedge my bet (I’m not LE so who cares).

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Received this from a Threeper I trust implicitly regarding LaRue Tactical quality control problems and service issues. He included a copy of a series of emails back and forth beginning in December of last year. Here’s his latest to me:

Mike,

I’d like to warn people about buying scope mounts from LaRue Tactical since you may well not get the one you need, and then they won’t do anything about it. When you spend $250.00 for a scope mount, it damn well be the one you needed, especially when you called and spoke to their rep before ordering.

If you could warn your readers, I think it would be a great service to them. Perhaps ask David to do the same. The story is in the below email stream.

The picture of my rife, scope mount and scope fitted and bore-sighted attached. As you can see, it has to go all the way up to the turret to get a decent eye relief. Also, I had to crank it all the way up to get it bore-sighted for 100 yards, leaving no more elevation for greater distances.

Before anyone buys a quick disconnect sight from LaRue Tactical, they better know exactly what they need to get because the reps at LaRue have no idea.

The shame is that I have previously purchased two other mounts for ACOGS for my other rifles from them. Still they have no interest in rectifying this situation.

Thanks,

WarriorClass
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My son has been collecting the components to build himself a 7.62 NATO sniper platform on an Armalite receiver much like the one pictured. He was thinking, if memory serves me correctly, of getting a LaRue Tactical mount like the one pictured. I will discourage him from doing so. –
Received this from a Threeper I trust implicitly regarding LaRue Tactical quality control problems and service issues. He included a copy of a series of emails back and forth beginning in December of last year. Here’s his latest to me:

Mike,

I’d like to warn people about buying scope mounts from LaRue Tactical since you may well not get the one you need, and then they won’t do anything about it. When you spend $250.00 for a scope mount, it damn well be the one you needed, especially when you called and spoke to their rep before ordering.

If you could warn your readers, I think it would be a great service to them. Perhaps ask David to do the same. The story is in the below email stream.

The picture of my rife, scope mount and scope fitted and bore-sighted attached. As you can see, it has to go all the way up to the turret to get a decent eye relief. Also, I had to crank it all the way up to get it bore-sighted for 100 yards, leaving no more elevation for greater distances.

Before anyone buys a quick disconnect sight from LaRue Tactical, they better know exactly what they need to get because the reps at LaRue have no idea.

The shame is that I have previously purchased two other mounts for ACOGS for my other rifles from them. Still they have no interest in rectifying this situation.

Thanks,

WarriorClass
III

My son has been collecting the components to build himself a 7.62 NATO sniper platform on an Armalite receiver much like the one pictured. He was thinking, if memory serves me correctly, of getting a LaRue Tactical mount like the one pictured. I will discourage him from doing so.

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I want an SKS Rifle Stocks that is not a norinco and one that will shoot when I want it to I just dumped my shitty norinco off for 200.00
What should I look for and what should I be expecting to spend ?
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Posted: 10/28/2011 6:40:24 AM EST
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There are recently imported Yugo’s out there for around $279. Knowing how cheap they used to be I balk at the price but I’ve never heard anything bad about them.

ETA: Just found VG Yugo 59/66s at Samco for $259 and Excellent for $299. SOG may have some on their site, I don’t have time to look right now.

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I’ve had 3 different SKS’s. A type 56 Norinco, a 59/66 Yugo, and a type 45 Russian (Tula). The only one worth anything was the Russian. I sold the other 2 and kept the “52 Tula. Russian SKS’s are in the $450 – $600 range here in SW Florida. At the last fun show, July ????, a guy had a ’54 Tula for $450 that was pretty nice.
My Russian goes bang every time. It’s reliable and accurate. Save your money and get a Russian. You won’t be sorry.
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Posted: 10/28/2011 8:38:46 AM EST
Originally Posted By Colddeadhands61:
I’ve had 3 different SKS’s. A type 56 Norinco, a 59/66 Yugo, and a type 45 Russian (Tula). The only one worth anything was the Russian. I sold the other 2 and kept the “52 Tula. Russian SKS’s are in the $450 – $600 range here in SW Florida. At the last fun show, July ????, a guy had a ’54 Tula for $450 that was pretty nice.
My Russian goes bang every time. It’s reliable and accurate. Save your money and get a Russian. You won’t be sorry.

wow…450$ to 600$ i would buy an ak before i ever spent that much for an sks.
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Posted: 10/28/2011 9:28:54 AM EST
The Yugo 56/66 model is ok and right now Cabelas has a bunch on sale for $199.00, but I have never been a fan of them. Now if you can score a Yugo 59, they are sweet shooters but may cost you a little more. The Russian and Romanian I think are some of the nicest out there and I just put a Russian on layaway for $319, which is a decent price, but not great. I bought it to replace my other Russian that has a mismatched mag/floorplate.

Typical russians in the midwest are going in the $400 range with Romainians in the high 3′s.

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Posted: 10/28/2011 10:03:49 AM EST
Originally Posted By dwinecof:
There are recently imported Yugo’s out there for around $279. Knowing how cheap they used to be I balk at the price but I’ve never heard anything bad about them.

ETA: Just found VG Yugo 59/66s at Samco for $259 and Excellent for $299. SOG may have some on their site, I don’t have time to look right now.

I had a hell of a time with mine, until I got all of the gunk out of the gas system.

After that, NOTHING stops it. It’s also reasonably accurate, for what it is. I’m perfectly happy with it.

While I’d love to buy more at prices from several years back, $250-300 is still a pretty good deal for what you’re getting. A reliable, 10 round, semi-auto rifle that is built like a tank.

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Posted: 10/28/2011 10:03:55 AM EST
Russian all the way.

The eyepiece cap is deep enough to engage the Rifle Scope body in front of the focusing ring, so now the focusing ring can’t move easily unless I remove the cap. Before installing the caps mine wasn’t loose enough to move under recoil, but then again my TR24 is mounted on a 5.56 Sig-not a 308 MBR like yours. ETA: Damn nice shooting, by the way Via AR15.Com Mobile “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.” -Alexis de Tocqueville “We’re screwed.” -Me 3O8junkie May 2011 USA USA 12 : 0-0-0 : 5/26/2011 2:23:05 T Thank’s Market Garden, I went and looked at that post and it does seem to be the same issue. I just hope it doesn’t take 2 months to get it working right, its the only Rifle Scope I have right now. Thanks for the kind words on the shooting and for the responses about the eyepiece slippage. I don’t care what they say ay Sniper’s Hide.. I love this place lol Hayseed_40 Aug 2005 USA USA 2048 : 0-0-0 : 5/26/2011 6:58:23 T : 5/26/2011 7:00:50 T by Hayseed_40] Love the concept of the Accupoint. They are just a gamble on getting a good one or not. I have owned more Mark 4′s than Trijicons and have never had an issue with teh Leupolds.